Church of Satan, a church for the gullible

Pay this man $200 and you can swap your brain for a plastic membership of his personal admiration society.

Pay this man $200 and you can swap your brain for a plastic membership card of his personal admiration society.

I personally have a lot of respect for Anton Lavey, but I have none for the decrepit dinosaur he created known as the Church of Satan.  Recently, I played host to angry fans of CoS in the blog comments of Satanic Views, who considered my many observations and opinions of their church was unfair and unjust.  I stand by all my previous conclusions of CoS, a creation living on past memories of little or no value to modern Satanists.

CoS these days is nothing more than a marketing operation, a business to pay the rent and food bills of Peter Gilmore and his partner Peggy Nadramia. To see in CoS anything more than a business, from which Gilmore and Nadramia pay personal tax on to the IRS, is foolish, a stupidity that CoS preys upon in the gullible and stupid.  The administrators of CoS live off the corpse of Lavey, offering little new to the Satanic current, braying like donkeys at every opportunity to anyone who would listen, as the supposed voice of Satanism.

Hypocrites, the CoS says that Satanism is the path of the individual, whilst insisting all Satanists must abide by its rules, definitions and opinions of its husband-and-wife owners.  CoS and its slavish followers live the fantasy that Lavey invented Satanism, rather than an interpretation, and delude themselves anyone not a member of CoS, or who especially follow theistic paths, are not Satanists.

As a business CoS is a joke, present only on the internet, with no physical location in the real world.  The CoS has no real world presence beyond a few yearly events at second-rate locations, and a marketing list of slaves which it can sell its merchandise.  For any entity to be taken seriously it needs to be legally set up so that its assets are separate from that of its owners, such as being incorporated, but CoS is merely a business trading name of a business partnership of Gilmore and his wife.

CoS lives off the stupidity and vanity of its members.  The weak-minded Satanist needing the approval of Peter Gilmore trading as Church of Satan to be considered a Satanist.  There is little or no benefit of being a member of CoS, because all the member gets is a worthless membership card for their $200.  The Satanist must submit themselves to an invasive membership application form process, because Gilmore seems to suffer from a mix of paranoia and ego-mania.  The members get no voting rights; there is no transparency; and the administration is so poor in CoS that it takes over a year to process membership applications.  The only purpose of membership of CoS seems to be to lick the toes of the egotistical dwarf Gilmore sitting on the shoulders of a dead giant Anton Lavey.

In my personal opinion, if the Satanist needs a drug fix of group-minded mediocrity they should join the Satanic Temple; its cheaper, more fun and at least has a purpose for existing other than worshiping the feet of an old fart.

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41 thoughts on “Church of Satan, a church for the gullible

  1. Please quit beating around the bush, and speak plainly.
    What do you really think of the Co$?

    They are really no different than fundamentalist christians or muslims. They have such a huge blind spot and they never seem able to see it, much less admit it. Without a group, they’re nothing.

    Ah well, if that’s their path, that’s their path. Have fun.

      • Yes it is, they seem to have thier shit together in a big way. A few freinds of mine are members and the speak very highly about the interaction of thier core leadership and other members. I also understand that they have a book coming out which I am excited to get very soon. I am waiting for the book before I sign up for membership. On the outside they really seem to want to really change things and bring the LHP as a strong unit but they is not all they want it seems. I have seen the founder talk about occultis are not really the target demographic as the whole but rather to include everyone who is on the fence about thier faiths. That right there tells me that they are really doing something different And not closed off about it. They seem very transparent in what they do. It is not everyday where you can just message a founder or leader on facebook and have an open dialog with them.

  2. I would suggest doing an interview with one of the leaders. I talked to Jacob No once who is the founder. He seems very interested in educating me on what they are doing. He might be willing to talk to greater detail with you if you were to write something.

  3. Thanks for the post. I agree some people need an outside Authority or Identity and will pay well {$200.00} for it. I like this post for it is honest from the viewpoint of the writer on a subject most people would not dare write about. He was not insulting, expect at the end :), and it was informative. He also backed up what he said and re-post it for others to use as they like. Thanks for a kool post, I will keep my $200.00 in my pocket. If I am ever interested in CoS I can do more research and see if it is for me, but it isn’t. Have a Kool Satanic Day! 3:) The Happy Atheist

    • ” I agree some people need an outside Authority or Identity and will pay well {$200.00} for it.”
      This isn’t how it works. At all. One doesn’t join out of NEED. They join because they wish to support an organization that represents a philosophy they hold dear:
      “We don’t solicit memberships; however, if you wish to join us to show your support or appreciation you can become a Registered Member.”
      From: http://www.churchofsatan.com/registered-membership.php

      It’s not a matter of needing an identity either. The following quote explains this quite clearly:
      “We must emphasize that you don’t have to join our organization to consider yourself a Satanist, you only need to recognize yourself in The Satanic Bible and live according to the tenets outlined therein. We don’t proselytize, or otherwise campaign for people to join—that is your prerogative. We have supplied this information which explains how you can affiliate if you so choose.”

      What you wrote here is a little more than confusing. It may even answer the question as to why you missed the mark regarding a ‘need’ for outside authority that you erroneously claim CoS members must have:
      ” If I am ever interested in CoS I can do more research and see if it is for me, but it isn’t.”
      So, my question to you is this:
      How do you know something is (or isn’t) for you until you research it?

  4. For someone that claims admiration for Anton LaVey and the tenets of the religion he created, it’s rather obvious that you don’t have a grasp on what is actually entailed in the religion or the organization that he set up.

    Yes, the Church of Satan is a business. In case you missed it, ALL churches are businesses. The Church of Satan is one of the few, if not the first, to actually acknowledge itself as such.

    Also, I don’t see anyone refusing to take small businesses any less seriously simply because they haven’t received a license of incorporation from the state in order to do business. What’s more, depending on the way a particular business is set up, it may be to the group’s advantage to not be incorporated. I don’t see you providing any substantiation as to how the Church of Satan is operating, so your claims can be easily disregarded until you can come up with evidence to support your claim.

    If you want to maintain the preposterous assumption that a business can only be considered successful if they maintain some sort of huge presence outside of the Internet, tell that to eBay.com, a multibillion dollar and multinational company that is largely present only on the World Wide Web. Apart from its corporate headquarters in San Jose, CA, they really don’t need to maintain other locales in order to do business. The Church of Satan has its central administration office and various local contact persons around the world. It doesn’t require established locales in order to maintain some kind of validity.

    If people don’t like the business practices or autonomous decisions of what the administrators decide is best for the organization, that’s really just some tough shit. The Church of Satan is a private organization – they don’t have to maintain any kind of transparency, the same as any other privately held business. If the administrators decided to use my $100 membership fee to buy metric adjustable wrenches, that was none of my concern – and if they did, good for them! They are not a democracy, they are not an actively trading entity and they don’t have stockholders. They are not subject to governmental regulation in any of those regards, nor do they have to display transparency. If you want transparency, I suggest you purchase some Waterford or Swarovski crystal.

    Satanism is a path of the individual. This, however, does not mean that individuals are not subject to following certain rules, laws of the land or the house rules of an organization they decide to be a member of. As was written in the third Satanic Rule of the Earth, “When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.” If you don’t like the rules of the Church of Satan, nothing says that you have to join. There are plenty of other pseudo-Satanist organizations, like yours, that will accept the flotsam and jetsam that refuse organizational mandates. Of course, with such low standards, don’t complain when you find you’re getting what you asked for.

    Moreover, nothing says that someone has to experience some form of benefit from joining the organization. Most people just send off their membership fee and that’s the last the Church hears from them. Apparently, they agree with the organization enough that they contribute their non-tax deductible money and leave it at that. For some, being publicly outed as a Satanist would cause them harm, so they keep their affiliation secret. The Church of Satan acknowledges this and supports their decision to remain clandestine.

    By the way, if you consider filling out the three lines on the application required for your address so the Church of Satan can actually mail you your membership card as being “invasive,” it shows me you’ve never had to deal with any kind of a major contract. If you want further involvement with the Church of Satan, you will need to fill out an Active Membership application; however, this is hardly invasive either as it’s strictly voluntary to fill out. Enlisting for and being on active duty in the US Armed Forces is invasive. So is applying to work in law enforcement. If you have something to hide that you don’t want found out, don’t apply.

    As for the organization’s presence in the real world, the entire system was specifically set up to be a loose-knit organization. This is why there aren’t “chapters” a lá the “Satanic” Temple. We don’t have to get together in some form of congregational activities. Doing so also provides a great way to maintain the safety and security of its members. Without a centralized meeting place (i.e. a church or a mosque), it makes it nearly impossible to target practitioners of this religion who have not already made themselves a publicly practicing Satanist.

    I see your complaint that the Church of Satan has “yearly events” (which they don’t, by the way) at “second-rate” locations. Meanwhile, I don’t see your “organization” holding ANY events at ANY locations. I don’t think you have room to be preaching to anybody about hypocrisy.

    • Firstly, I am an independent Satanist with no affiliation to any organization. Satanic Views promotes individual Satanism, free from any ties to groups or organizations. Satanic Views is neither an organization, nor does it run a Satanic organization.

      The first argument we present is that Church of Satan offers no benefit to membership. All the Satanist gets from COS is a membership card for their $200.

      Secondly, any Satanist who needs the approval of an external authority such as Gilmore, or CoS or a membership card to be a Satanist, is a stupid slave, who fails to walk the Left Hand Path, and is certainly no Satanist in our opinion, which we sure COS benefits from.

      Thirdly, following an external authorities definitions and rules makes the individual a mindless slave, whereas the true Satanist defines their own Satanism, and creates their own rules.

      Fourthly, the COS is a poorly run business run by Gilmore and his partner. We obviously have no access to independently available public accounts of Church of Satan, which would be available if it was incorporated, to assess its success or failure as a business. We can infer that it is a partnership or one-man business; that it is Gilmore (and perhaps his partner) who pays the tax for Church of Satan; that it is little more than a name, an internet site and a marketing list; and that it has a poorly run administration based on it saying it takes a year to process a membership.

      There is no apparent reason or benefit for anyone to join Church of Satan; and because it is unable to substantiate any independently available numbers such as membership and financial records, Satanic Views considers that CoS has little or no authority to claim to be the representative or authority of Satanism and Satanists to the world and the media.

      • Also, keep in mind that Ebay actually gives benefits to people who use it, What does the CoS give to its members other than a useless plastic card and a pat on the back for becoming a “true satanist”? If those are the best arguments a CoS member can give then certainly they aren’t walking a path worth following.

      • “Satanic Views promotes individual Satanism, free from any ties to groups or organizations.”

        We’ll look at that word, “individual,” in your third argument.

        The case could be made that your own argument that people should not join an organization or group, as you are promoting, also encroaches upon the individuality of others. If someone decides it’s worth their while to join an organization, for whatever reason, that is their personal, independent decision. They made that decision of their own accord. Go about your own life.

        “The first argument we present is the Church of Satan offers no benefits to membership.”

        Apparently, you missed that part where I wrote:

        “…nothing says that someone has to experience some form of benefit from joining the organization. Most people just send off their membership fee and that’s the last the Church hears from them. Apparently, they agree with the organization enough that they contribute their non-tax deductible money and leave it at that. For some, being publicly outed as a Satanist would cause them harm, so they keep their affiliation secret. The Church of Satan acknowledges this and supports their decision to remain clandestine.”

        Any benefit that someone feels they receive from joining the Church of Satan is entirely up to that person. For some, affiliation with the organization as a Basic Member is enough of a benefit. If you need some mommy or daddy figure to hold your hand or fight your battles, like the members of the “Satanic” Temple seem to be doing with the various lawsuits they’re filing, you’re looking towards the wrong organization. The Church of Satan is not representative of the causes of its members. We can, and do, fight for our own causes and we do so independently of the CoS. If someone doesn’t think they’re going to receive any benefit from joining the Church, the course of action for them is simple:

Keep your money. Don’t join.

        When I joined in the late 1990’s, I already knew what the organization stood for and what they were doing. My membership fee was my way of saying, “I agree with what you’re doing. Here’s some money to help with that cause.” If I wish to donate additional funds, I will do so of my own free will. There is no tithing like you find with other religious organizations, and if my donated money goes towards the purchase of a 172-inch High Definition 3D television for Magus Gilmore to watch movies on, that’s fine by me.

        “All the Satanist gets from COS is a membership card for their $200.”

        Does the Church of Satan say you get anything more? Have they ever? There is no false advertisement of what you get. If you don’t think that’s a fair value for money, fine. Spend that money on food or something you find gives you value for said money.

        “Secondly, any Satanist who needs the approval of an external authority such as Gilmore, or CoS or a membership card to a Satanist, is a stupid slave, who fails to walk the Left Hand Path, and is certainly no Satanist in our opinion, which we sure COS benefits from.”

        Okay, this is off topic, but, “Our opinion?” Do you have multiple personalities or is there more than one person running this blog? If you have more than one person running it, I don’t think you can say you’re completely independent anymore. As Rick Perry once said, “Oops!”

        Now, who said that people were joining in order to seek approval from someone else? The majority of people seem to be in the same scenario that I was in. We agreed with the philosophy, we contributed our money. I didn’t need or seek the approval from the beneficiaries of my monies. If I want someone voicing approval after I’ve given them my money, I can hire a “Yes Man” or a hooker and I’m not particularly interested in doing either.

        Also, becoming a member of some organization does not make a person the “slave” to someone else, especially the Church of Satan. If the Church of Satan has given out any recommendations to their members, it’s usually to go out and live life to the fullest and be the best at whatever it is that they can do. I have my own goals I wish to achieve. The Church of Satan has no say in any of them and would still support them as long as they are within legal parameters. I am not forced to do them. If I accomplish my goals, it’s on my own and I can take pride in my own accomplishments. The Church of Satan does not ask or force me to do anything.

        Besides, even if I were a “slave” to the Church of Satan, what’s so bad about being a minion to another if it ultimately benefits you in some way? If that’s the case, both sides are receiving a benefit and it’s not unwilling servitude.

        “Thirdly, following an external authorities definition and rules makes the individual a mindless slave, whereas the true Satanist defines their own Satanism, and creates their own rules.”

        There’s that word again. “Individual.”

        “You keep using that word. I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” -Inigo Montoya

        You seem to be promulgating that following regulations or abiding by an unwritten social contract is somehow counter to individuality. Yes, you can create rules for your own life, but if you’re insisting on going against any and all rules set by others just to prove to others that you are an individual, you are unconsciously seeking the approval of others AND you’ve fallen into the herd mindset that gets you a felony record and keeps people affiliated in my career choice perpetually employed and well-paid for our duties. As difficult as it may be for some people to wrap their heads around this concept, it IS possible to follow rules and STILL maintain your individuality.

        I noticed an earlier post where someone – was it you? – was complaining about being stopped and refusing to be searched by some law enforcement officers. The claim was made that injuries were sustained after being thrown onto the hood of the car. Once again, herd behavior. Impersonal martyrdom to some cause is looked down upon in Satanism, even when that cause is your supposed “individuality.” A situation where the involved could have been released to go about their way within a few minutes was instead extended out even longer because of some delusions about “freedom” and “individuality.”

        As for following an organization’s rules, once again, “When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.” If you don’t like the rules of the Church of Satan or any other organization, nobody says people have to join. Just remember that the person whose domicile or business you are entering gets to set the rules in their residence or business. If they make you leave either by verbal or written notice or the act of defenestration, you’ll leave, voluntarily or by force.

        “There is no apparent reason or benefit for anyone to join the Church of Satan;”

        Apparently, there is more than one reason for people to join; otherwise, why would they become members? If someone thinks there is no benefit received by joining, they can save their money. It’s as simple as that.

        “…and because it is unable to substantiate any independently available numbers such as membership and financial records…”

        The only financial records that need to be substantiated are made available annually to the Internal Revenue Service. Tax records are not a public matter unless someone is planning to run for public office. The CoS is also not a charity organization or an altruistic endeavor so they are not required to reveal what they are doing with their funds.

        What’s more, it has always been the policy of the Church of Satan to keep the number of its membership private, as per Anton LaVey’s direction. Apparently, there’s enough people seeking to become basic members and active members that the staff at the Central Administration’s headquarters are backed up enough that it would take several months to a year to go through all of the applications. By the way, it’s not just Magus Gilmore and Magistra Nadramia running the business by themselves. I have corresponded with the Central Administration in order to update some membership info and received a response from a third party. As far as the number of people working there in the Central Office is concerned, that’s also not anyone else’s business.

      • Firstly, Satanic Views offers its own point of view on anything related to Satanism. It is assumed that the reader is a critical thinker who is aware that these are viewpoints of the writer, and retain the intelligence and will to have their own opinions and choices, including if they wish to read this blog.

        Thanks for your point of view, though in conclusion, regardless of your arguments, there is no benefit of anyone affiliating with Church of Satan, something that is little more now than a trading name and platform of Gilmore, its owner.

  5. Okay, I really need to interject here and point out something that appears obvious by the blog owner here has missed entirely.

    Satanic Views states the following:
    “The individual Satanist is the only authority in their Satanism in their own lives.”

    Then goes on to say in a reply:
    “Thanks for your point of view, though in conclusion, regardless of your arguments, there is no benefit of anyone affiliating with Church of Satan, something that is little more now than a trading name and platform of Gilmore, its owner.”

    So, Satanicviews claims that each individual is the only authority in their lives, but claims to speak for others in that they can find no benefit in affiliating with the Church of Satan.

    I will provide evidence here of who’s benefited from being a CoS member:
    1) (taken out of the replies by SmylexBaggins):
    “When I joined in the late 1990’s, I already knew what the organization stood for and what they were doing. My membership fee was my way of saying, “I agree with what you’re doing. Here’s some money to help with that cause.””
    – Benefit: Supporting a philosophy and actions that genuinely and sincerely benefit and strengthen a philosophy that SmylexBaggins is affiliated with.

    2) EVERYONE who is an artist, business-owner, etc. whose membership gives them the benefit of having their wares and expressions advertised on a website that gets hundreds and thousands of hits a day:
    http://www.churchofsatan.com/news.php

    3) Myself, a member for over 10 years. I am personally stating to you that I have met wonderful individuals I may not have had the pleasure of meeting had I not been a member. They have inspired me and created great memories through our interactions.

    You stating that there is no benefit in anyone joining the Church of Satan is speaking for myself, SmylexBaggins, and everyone who’s asked to have their wares and expressions advertised on the CoS’s website.
    There are thousands of members worldwide who felt it beneficial to join the Church of Satan.
    Do you claim to speak for them, as well?
    Because you did.
    And my voice is different than yours.

    That doesn’t seem very becoming of someone who supports individuality at all. It actually seems quite Christian.

    • This writer refers you to the FAQ of Satanic Views:
      https://satanicviews.wordpress.com/faq/

      This blog also allows right of reply via its comments. The articles of this blog has presented its viewpoint on Church of Satan. You and others have been allowed to give your contrary arguments and points of view. It is up to other readers to come to their own conclusions based upon the many articles and comments on this blog about Church of Satan.

  6. I see that what I call “The detractor checklist” has been checked, double checked, amd checked again
    If you offer your own view, use “my” versus “our”, because if you use our it makes it seem as though you are speaking for everyone…affiliated and Title Holding Members included. Allow me to emphatica;;y state that you do bot speak for me.

    In none of the writings of Magus LaVey(who you, by your words here, clearly do NOT respect, as you are aattacking an organization HE founded) not any of Magus Gilmore is it ever stated “You must join the Church Of Satan to be a Satanist
    The only “restrictions” Members have are abstaining from illegal activity, which includes the use of illegal drugs, and voicing beliefs contrary to the philosophy, such as spiritual or racist beliefs, or blatantly attacking other Members in a public setting. You know, nice parts of the social contract

    Speaking of racism….
    There have been claims of racism in the Church Of Satan, which I can say, through experience, are completely untrue, as are the allegations of not letting disabled people join (as a Warlock who happenss to have Cerebral Palsy…? Well, you see where this is going.) All of your claims, as well as those other comments by your supporters, are unsubstabtiated
    You are welcome to your misguided beliefs, regardless of what I think

    • “Our” should be taken as meaning “Satanic Views.”

      This writer has respect for Anton Lavey, but never for the CoS. This writer has little respect for Gilmore. The Church of Satan has no legal status as an entity, it is a trading name of Gilmore or his partnership trading as Church of Satan.

      The important point you made “voicing beliefs contrary to the philosophy” is one of the great restrictions of CoS, similar is the Roman Catholic dogmatic position that anything contrary to its belief results in the title of heretic, resulting in the penalties that goes with that. The dogmatic position of CoS is contrary to the essence of Satanism, that is an individual path where the individual follows their own interpretations and philosophy.

      This writer is unaware of Church of Satan being racist or discriminatory against disabled people, nor has Satanic Views made any accusations against CoS for racism or prejudice against disabled people.

  7. So Robert, you’re basically saying that a CoS membership is worth the price of having restrictions. Let’s see then: If I were a member and wanted to participate on a protest which could potentially benefit me but said protest hasn’t been approved by the Town Hall I’d be unable to attend unless I didn’t care about losing my membership. How is that beneficial for you?

    Bowing your head down to the system and become its mindless slave is the most unsatanic thing anyone can do, especially to seek approval by ANY group.

    • You’re using a hypothetical and a strawwman to bolster your argument. There isa policy on politics which states, in part:
      “What constitutes the Church of Satan’s stance on any number of political issues is a topic often broached by students working on papers, journalists of varying stripes and intelligence, and other assorted researchers, trolls, or people with some form of axe to grind. Here is what we consider to be the briefest answer:

      “As has been said many times before, one’s politics are up to each individual member, and most of our members are political pragmatists. They support political candidates and movements whose goals reflect their own practical needs and desires. Our members span an amazing political spectrum, which includes but is not limited to: Libertarians, Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans, Democrats, Reform Party members, Independents, Capitalists, Socialists, Communists, Stalinists, Leninists, Trotskyites, Maoists, Zionists, Monarchists, Fascists, Anarchists, and just about anything else you could possibly imagine. It is up to each member to apply Satanism and determine what political means will reach his/her ends, and they are each solely responsible for this decision. Freedom and responsibility—must be a novel concept for those who aren’t Satanists. We take it in stride. Members who demand conformity from other members to their particular political fetish are welcomed to depart.”

      —High Priest Peter H. Gilmore,
      from his essay “A Map for the Misdirected”

      I feel it can’t be any more clear than that. If you still feel your individuality is challenged, consider this:

      What do you consider individualistic? Doing whatever you wish, without regards to the social contract, or the reprecussions for ignoring or violating it?
      That isn’t only unSatanic, it’s downight rude.
      By all means, keep producing hypotheticals, and I’ll refute them with facts

      • So the church wouldn’t mind if a member goes to an illegal protest then? Because that’s what I was getting at. There are always going to be things one wants to do that aren’t exactly legal, but according to the CoS there couldn’t be, say, satanist hackers since what they enjoy doing the most are illegal activities and messing around other people’s computers (even if they’re the best at it.) Let’s not even mention call girls who feel empowered by doing their job, they couldn’t join the CoS even if they followed LaVey’s philosophy as well?

      • To be direct:
        From the Policy On Drug abuse, due to relevance

        The Church of Satan does not condone illegal activities. If the use of certain drugs is illegal in your country of residence, they are just that: illegal.

        Individuals who choose to ignore this and break the law do so at their own peril. Their actions as individuals shall not be construed as being sanctioned by the Church of Satan. Furthermore, they must pay the dire yet fully predictable consequences they have brought down upon themselves. The Church of Satan is not responsible for their actions, and will not be used as an excuse for their lawless behavior. Responsibility to the responsible. If you are one of these lawbreakers, you are on your own. You make your own personal choice as to what you do as an individual. We make our own personal choices, as individuals, with regard to how we view you, based on the choices you make and your resultant behavior.

        Any other questions? And next time, do be so kind as to be direct, without hypotheticals, or bait and switch tactics

      • While I do not condone the use of certain drugs, the fact that you seem to think that their use and trade are the only illegal activity in the US while conveniently ignoring others by claiming they’re just “hypothetical” (as if it was such an insane thing to walk the satanic path while hacking the pentagon or selling empowering sex) speaks volumes of the “good guy badge” the CoS wears proudly alongside their Baphomet sigils. By all means, keep pretending to be evil and elite, but remember this: LaVey was just the gatekeeper to Satanism and while you may choose to stay with him and have a tea party for the rest of your life, do no criticize those of us who step beyond the threshold to walk the path ahead.

      • All.Illegal activity is illegal, hence my posting of that segment from the policy on drugs.
        I don’t know what your point is, but perhaps in your rush to show me up, so to speak, you missed this little part
        “The Church of Satan does not condone illegal activities.”
        Let’s break this down

        con·done
        kənˈdōn/Submit
        verb
        verb: condone; 3rd person present: condones; past tense: condoned; past participle: condoned; gerund or present participle: condoning
        accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.
        “the college cannot condone any behavior that involves illicit drugs”
        synonyms: disregard, accept, allow, let pass, turn a blind eye to, overlook, forget; More
        antonyms: condemn
        approve or sanction (something), especially with reluctance.
        “the practice is not officially condoned by any airline”

        If a Church Of Satan Member engages in illegal activity, and is caught doing so, they must face the consequences, and in cases of serious crimes, their Membership is revoked.

        That is not “suppressing individuality” as you’d like to think, but operating within the law of the land
        I am well within my rights to criticize someone who has stepped outside what Satanism is, yet dares to try to cling onto the name. You have done this

  8. Also see here
    http://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-prisoner-issues.php
    and take the time to read
    http://www.churchofsatan.com/cos-satanic-panic.php
    There were extensive interviews given during that period, and it’s still being discussed today.
    Magus LaVey codified Satanism in 1966, it has grown organically since, and quite well under Magus Gilmore’s guidance. With all of this, have you forgotten that you don’t need to join the CoS to be a Satanist?
    All you have to do is read the Satanic Bible and understand it,

    That’s it, aside from not engaging in illegal activity, and not doing anything that goes against Satanism

    • And there it is! Yet another Church of Satan member who claims they own Satanism and what it stands for. There’s really no point in discussing this any longer with you nor any other members of the CoS.

      • That merely proves you have no counter argument. I’ve given the proof via links. . All of your hypothetical arguments have involved illegal acts. Satanism is not a “oh, I’ll throw this to the wall and hope it sticks” type of deal
        The fact remains, had someone else codified Satanism, and brought it above ground, then they would have the right to say “this is what Satanism is and is not” Since Magus LaVey did so first, then he, and now Magus Gilmore, have the right to define the term.
        If you don’t wish to join? That’s fine. Can’t stand the CoS because it somehow compromises your “individuality” ? That’s your prerogative.
        But don’t be naive enough to think that you’re actually furthering anything.
        Satanism is not a cause, nor movement. It is, however a tool with which I have used to ebrich my already full life
        My best wishes to you

      • Codifying something doesn’t make you the owner of it, you can certainly keep living your life as best as you want to but don’t pretend to mold other people’s ideas of Satanism into those of the CoS.

    • I’m a little late, but oh well.

      ​Despite what “high priest” Peter Gilmore and his obnoxious dogmatic CoS posse continually regurgitates, Anton LaVey did not create Satanism and he most certainly was no the first one to define what it is.

      The idea of Satanism being an atheistic philosophy that acknowledges Satan as only being an archetype goes back about 50-60 years.

      The term “Satanism” itself has been in dictionaries since the 1550’s. It has also been used since the 1800’s to refer to those who have a favorable depiction of Satan.

      The primary definition of “Satanism” was, and still is : “the worship of Satan.”

      Therefore if someone worships or reveres Satan, as the original definition of the term clearly states, then they have every right to call themselves a Satanist if they want to.

      Theistic Satanism wasn’t just some idea that another individual came up with right after Atheistic Satanism was introduced, it existed long before Anton LaVey was even born and the historical meaning is beyond the church of Satan’s existence.

      So unless they a copyright they can shut up and get over it. They cannot just take a term they didn’t create and to alter it to what they sees as fit and then claim that their specific ideology of Satanism is the only one. They cannot ignore the historical context of which something existed and then speak as if they’re an authority figure on it.

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